Q&A
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Q: Can the engine harness of my existing E.I. UBG 16 be used for the CGR-30 instrument?
Yes, you can use the same probes. There is an upgrade package available from E.I. from the UBG-16 to the CGR-30.
Q: Can MP be added to the EI CGR-30-B?
No, manifold pressure only comes in the CRG-30-P and cannot be added to the -B verion.
Q: Does the EI CGR-30P-6-P come with all senders (RPM, EGT/CHT, Fuel flow, others)?
The CGR30P-6-P allows for 6 primary engine functions and the 6 you select will come with the required probes.
Q: For the EI CGR-30, can the user program alarms in addition to the required manufacturer-2957; limits? For example, I'd like a lower CHT alarm than the Cessna red line for my 182.
While the CGR-30 Primary Engine Monitor can technically be programmed to have a custom lower alarm limit for CHT, EI is bound to go by the limits set forth in the POH of your aircraft. The user cannot themselves, program this.
Q: Can the EI CGR-30 be configured to pick up GPS information from a handheld like a Garmin Aera 500?
Per EI, the CGR-30 can be configured to work with may portable GPS's such as the Aera 500. Please state which model you have when you at the time of order to ensure the correct cable is included.
Q: Can the CGR-30 basic show fuel pressure as a primary on the main screen?
Per EI, the CGR-30 cannot show fuel pressure as a primary on the main screen.
Q: Is it possible to download the engine parameters to a computer, to check engine malfunctions and keep data records?
CGR-30P records engine information from 1 to 3 times per second. You can insert a USB stick and download all of your engine information and view it on your computer with a spreadsheet program such as excel.
Q: Does installation of the CGR-30 allow for removal of the fuel gauges as a primary replacement?
As the CGR-30 is a primary replacement instrument. You would not need to keep your original fuel gauges.
Q: Can the flight log be reset or turned off?
Per the manufacturer: No, FAA regulations state that engine monitoring systems can not be reset or turned off.
Q: Is there a way to connect a second CGR-30 display for a tandem seat?
The CGR-30 does support this if you have two displays.
Q: What does the CGR-30P-4-B have in the box when it arrives?
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The Basic package, part number 10-05428 comes with the unit, the senders used for the functions which are displayed and the wiring harness needed to install the unit.
Q: What is included with the CGR-30P-4-B, does that include the fuel flow sensor?
Yes, part number 10-05428 comes with the fuel flow sensor.
Q: The main description and worksheet say 5 primary functions. Is it 5 or 6 primary functions?
The CGR-30, part number 10-05428 comes with 5 primary functions and 5 non primary functions for a total of 10.
Q: If I do an installation using my existing resistive fuel probes can I change to magnetic probes later?
Per the manufacturer: Yes, you can switch to magnetic probes after installing resistive probes. Minor electrical work is required to make the switch.
Q: When purchasing a CGR-30P, can the tach time hours be placed at the same time in service hours as the current factory analog tach has that is in the airplane? I do not want to start the 30P at zero(0) time while the airplane has xxxxhrs on the airframe.
Yes. When filling out the order form, there is a place to notate current hours and the instrument will be set to engine hours.
Q: Are the RPM, EGT, and CHT considered part of the five functions on the CGR-30P-4-B or is it these 3 plus 5.
The CGR-30P-4-B does not include any additional functions. Only the premium package allows for options other than the standard probes.
Q: I am not interested in any fuel related parameters. Can I use a 30P and not install, or configure, the instrument for any fuel data? I'm interested in RPM, MP, EGT, CHT, OP, Oil T, Volts, and Amps only.
Yes, please indicate on the order form that you do not require fuel data.
Q: Where does the USB stick plug in to the EI CGR-30P engine monitor system?
Per EI, the unit has a dongle that hangs below the connector on the back of the unit. This piece can be mounted to the panel if so desired.
Q: The CGR30P-4-P comes with 6 primary functions. My question is if I choose EGT and CHT, it means that comes with 4 egt probes, 4 cht probes, Oil pressure probe, Oil temp probes, RPM and Manifold pressure probes?
Yes, that is correct.
Q: To display amps, do I need to order the -P or can amps be displayed on the -B?
The -b will only display: rpm, fuel flow, egt/ cht bar graph, fuel remaining, volts, oat, tach time, local time, zulu time, flight timer, fuel used for the flight, fuel used since fill-up and all gps/fuel flow data. For other measurements, the -p will be required.
Q: What is CGR-30P displays viewing angle? we are running out of dashboard real estate right from the front of pilot (parallel seated pilots).
Per EI - If the CGR display is not installed within 8" of the pilots visual centerline, the external Master Caution and Warning Lights should be installed.
Q: CGR-30P-4-P has 5 primary and 5 non-primary functions. Does this mean that the 5 non-primary functions chosen such as Volts and Amps cannot be used in lieu of analog instruments? If these two functions are chosen as non-primary, would I have to keep the analog volt/amp meters?
Per EI. - since volts and amps are non-primary functions you will still have to keep your existing volt & amp gauges installed.
Q: Can the CGR30P be configured with temperature functions in degree Celsius?
Yes. The temperature read out will need to be specified at time of order.
Q: What is the back lighting source on the EI CGR-30 engine monitor system? If it fails, will I have a blank screen?
The backlighting is integrated in the screen. If backlighting fails, then the screen will be blank.
Q: With the CGR-30P-4-B, instead of OAT can it read carburetor temperature?
According to manufacturer, when ordering the CGR-30P (premium) you can select oat or carb temp on the worksheet.
Q: Some of the QandA was unclear. The EI CGR-30P-B basic package does Not come with Oil Temp or Pressure correct?
The basic package does not include oil temp or oil pressure. If you would like to select these you must choose the premium package.
Q: I am a little confused about the CGR 30p Basic. Can I select which primaries that I can have , such as oil press, oil temp, fuel flow, or do I have to get the premium package to get the choices?
The basic package comes preset, in order to choose, you will need to get the premium package.
Q: Do I need the ELECTRONICS INTERNATIONAL USB-6A SMART CHARGER FOR CGR-30P? What is this used for, a battery back-up?
No, that is just an accessory, the CGR-30P runs off of aircraft power.
Q: On the manufacturers website, it has listed that a remote annunciator panel is also included, is this the case when ordering from spruce?
Yes, these annunciator lights will come with the unit. The manufacturers install manual says that they are not required to be installed if the main unit is less than 8 inches from the pilots visual centerline.
Q: Does the CGR 30P is EIS-capable TXi to can have engine information in Garmin Pilot via the Flight Stream 510?
No, it cannot.
Q: What is the difference between the 4cyl basic package and the 4cyl premium package?
The premium package is customizable with functions. The basic is not.
Q: on the CGR30P-4 cyl basic, do all probs and sensors come with the unit or do I have to order them separately?
Per the manufacturer, the probes are included for the basic functions.
Q: Do you sell the CGR-30P Upgrade Packages (both Basic and Premium) as currently offered by EI?
Yes, our upgrade part #s are: Basic 10-06585 and 10-06859 | Premium 10-06860 and 10-06861 |Combo 10-06862 and 10-06863.
Q: Can the CGR-30 Premium show oil pressure as a primary on the main screen (meaning next to the RPM readout)?
You can select which functions are listed when filling out the required order form.
Q: Can the RPM function display by itself if the MP is not selected?
Per EI: As each CGR-30P is custom built per the configuration worksheet, what is displayed in the second arc is dependent on what functions are selected. If manifold pressure is not selected, we will typically program the second arc for fuel flow or oil pressure.
Q: Can the RPM function display by itself if the MP is not selected?
The display will be programmed to show something in its place. It will not be by itself.
Q: Is it certified for REIMS built Cessnas (F172M) ?
Please review the AML found in the documents section to verify.
Q: Will I have to replace my original Bonanza J35 fuel probes, and if I have to replace them what kind will I have to buy?
The configuration sheet will have a list of questions about the fuel senders. The manufacturer configures the unit according to those specifications
Q: I want to know if this equipment is compatible with the pa-28-180 aircraft?
Yes, this can be be used on certified aircraft including many Pipers.
Q: I have dual Lightspeed Ignition on my aircraft. Any compatibility issues with the CGR premium version, specifically RPM?
Per EI, not aware of any compatibility issues with our CGR-30P and Lightspeed ignitions. If the Lightspeed ignition outputs a 10-12V square wave, it's output signal can simply be connected to our system directly, with no isolator (resistor).
Q: Does EI CGR-30 basic display % of horsepower?
No, the customer would need to purchase the premium package to get horsepower %.
Q: Does the CGR 30 Premium package include all probes , wiring harness and EDC or are there any more items to order ?
This would include everything you need for the install.